This paper presents a debate in which the authors participated at the
World Psychiatric Association conference in Cape Town, South Africa in November
2016. Professor van Staden acted as chair and here, as at the debate, provides a
rationale for debating a topic that many of those involved in mental health believe to
be decided. The discussion that ensued demonstrated, however, that while the
arguments have moved on they have not ceased. Who won? Well that depends how
you look at it. A few in the audience shifted position towards the motion but the
majority remained opposed. What do you think?